Enlightenment - Experiencing or thinking about nibbana


B. Is enlightenment or the experience of nibbāna the same as thinking about nibbāna?

 

A.

Is the direct experience of the characteristics of nāma and rūpa the same as

thinking about them?

 

B.

No, it is different.

 

A.

Even so is the direct experience of nibbāna different from thinking about it.

 

B.

Through which door does the person who attains enlightenment experience

nibbāna?

 

A.

Nibbāna cannot be experienced through any of the five senses, it is

experienced through the mind-door.

 

B.

Objects which contact the five sense-doors or the mind-door are experienced

by cittas arising in processes of citta. What is the process of cittas like which

experience nibbāna? How many cittas experience nibbāna directly?

 

A.

The person who is about to attain enlightenment has developed the

knowledge of conditioned realities in the practice of vipassanā. He has

realized the characteristics of nāma and rūpa more and more clearly and he

experiences their arising and falling away. Paññā has been developed to the

degree that it can realize the nāma and rūpa which present themselves

through the six doors as aniccā (impermanent), dukkha and anattā (not

self). In the process during which enlightenment is attained, the mano-

dvārāvajjana-citta (mind-door-adverting-consciousness) takes as its object

one of the three characteristics of reality: aniccā, dukkha or anattā. 

 

B.

I understand that anicca, dukkha and anattā are three aspects of the truth of

conditioned realities. Thus, if one sees one aspect, one also sees the other

aspects. Why can one not experience the three characteristics at the same

time? 

 

A.

Cittas can experience only one object at a time. It depends on one's

accumulations which of the three characteristics is realized in the process of

cittas during which enlightenment is attained: one person views the reality

appearing at that moment as anicca, another as dukkha, and another again

as anatta.

 

The mano-dvārāvajjana-citta of that process adverts to one of these three

characteristics and is then succeeded by three or four cittas which are not yet

lokuttara cittas. but mahā-kusala cittas (kusala cittas of the sensuous plane

of consciousness), accompanied by paññā. The first mahā-kusala citta is

called parikamma, and it still has the same object as the mano-dvārāvajjana

-citta. If the mano-dvārāvajjana-citta had anicca as the object, parikamma

realizes the characteristic of aniccā.

 


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